Update on the Crucible Lump Hammer

Posted on 20 November 2017

We’ve had lots of inquiries about the lump hammer. When will it be available? How much? Here’s a quick update.

The hammer is ready for production. Raney has worked out the manufacturing of the head. We have a supplier for the handle. We know how to make it in sustainable quantities and sell it for $85.   

Why are we holding off?

To be honest: money. I know, I know. You aren’t supposed to say things like this on your blog. I’m supposed to make up some story about refining the whiz-shizits. Or tweaking the production of the bung-claptoids. Or discuss timing. Or simply say anything except “money.”

We don’t want to go into debt. And we want to stay in business for many years to come. So we need to sell some inventory of our dividers, holdfasts and curves to make enough money to pay for the raw materials to make a worthwhile batch of lump hammers.

When will that be? I anticipate we’ll have the money in hand by the end of the year.

Thanks for your patience with us.

— Christopher Schwarz

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22 comments

  • raney: November 28, 2017

    Paul,

    from the pic, it certainly looks skewed a bit (more on that in a sec) – and maybe a bit off center. I can’t remember if I wedged that one, or Chris did, but for prototypes (which that is) we usually don’t sweat details we aren’t actively working to test. Even if it’s off the 10% or so that it appears in the picture, though, it wouldn’t bother me any or cause any issues.

    That said, though, the production versions will be dead-on of course.

    One note on the skew of the wedge slightly off- axis: this can actually be really useful to add a tiny bit of push in the long axis; it doesn’t add any strength, but it sometimes helps close up small gaps that are often there when you make a one-off replacement handle.

    That becomes moot for a production version, which is fit precisely.

  • Paul Fowler: November 28, 2017

    Is the handle wedge off center?

  • raney: November 22, 2017

    As noted in the post on the dividers, we just don’t want to go down the pre-order route. No matter how much we nail things down, though, taking orders before they’re made adds an awful lot of risk. If we miscalculate, run into unforeseen issues in scale production, hit delivery walls, or even just all simultaneously develop amnesia, then someone is going to get shafted.

    We’re really NOT ok with letting people who give us money being the ones shafted (which is what usually happens when preorders go wrong, especially with a new company) – so that means we’d be eating all the risk. Or co-convalescing from said amnesia.

    One of the things all 3 of us are 100% committed to is thinking about the long run. Not the short-term. We think it’ll build a better company, better trust from customers, and in the long run better tools.

  • William Lenzke: November 21, 2017

    I still think the world is unprepared for an honest business. This really is the beginning of the end of the world as we know it!

    Keep up the good work!

  • Joe: November 21, 2017

    what is a lump hammer?

  • James Watriss: November 21, 2017

    I can understand not wanting to sell something that’s not yet made.

    That said, if it comes to pass that adding pre-orders to the process makes sense, to get those last few dollars in, please keep us posted.

  • jim: November 21, 2017

    From someone who has been in the business of making tool for years. Your smart not doing per-orders. You start out behind and end up playing an unending game of catch up. Not to mention when someone pays and says “you can get to it when you get the orders in to make a run”. What they really are saying is “I will have this next week right”. I am sure you have been through all of this already.

  • Robert: November 21, 2017

    I was so excited when I saw the price. I had been afraid it would be much higher given the cost for the holdfast. I don’t recall seeing any detail on the weight for the head. Care to tease us with more details, or are just going to have to wait? Maybe another sketch from Raney.

  • Michael Seifert: November 21, 2017

    Would you be able to share the specs?

  • Chris: November 20, 2017

    Pretty sound business practice there. Cash is king.

    Pre-order until you reach a production run’s worth is not a bad idea, but I’d assume you’ve already considered and dismissed that idea for good and proper reasons.

    At $85, I’d consider one (and I’m a really hard sell on this :-) )

  • Peter: November 20, 2017

    My thought too. Would be happy to pay now and secure an order.

  • Chuck: November 20, 2017

    I have a question: what is a lump hammer?

  • Jim: November 20, 2017

    What is the head made of? The color looks like aluminum.

  • Lance: November 20, 2017

    Thanks for the update. I bought a crappy lump hammer to just see how I like using a heavier mallet and so far so good. I’m really looking forward to the Crucible version.

  • colsdave: November 20, 2017

    They just don’t do pre-orders. Explanation here: https://crucibletool.com/blogs/news/questions-about-dividers-ordering

  • Tim Laing: November 20, 2017

    Agree with David, take pre orders and when you reach a threshold that will sustain production then start making.

  • David Fowler: November 20, 2017

    Agree with the first comment… in the age of “Go Fund Me” pre-ordering is fairly common – and given the quality of Crucible tools and your reputation it would seem easy to do… just sayin’…

  • Dominic : November 20, 2017

    I would also be interested in doing a preorder to help get funds coming in to help give you a start.

    Can’t wait!
    Dominic

  • Tony: November 20, 2017

    David is right on with his suggestion. I was thinking the same.

  • Yancey Holmes: November 20, 2017

    For what it is worth, I’m glad you post comments about the money. I applaud your principles of staying debt free and agree it’s the safest way to operate a company and household. Companies can’t go bankrupt if they don’t owe the bank anything. I’ve always found the Bible term “usury” to be much more descriptive of what “credit” really means. Best wishes for success and peace. I’m ready to place my order (with a debit card) whenever the hammers become available.

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